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  JWs Still Attending on Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another topic based on a conversation with a friend living near warwick (i talked to him over the weekend).

  he said that cong's in and around bethel, including his, are slowly starting to see an uptick with people attending in person his cong is pretty much 75%+ in person.

  however there are many that still use zoom as a fall back.

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  Beth Sarim

  ""According to my buddy thats what is kind of happening already.. so not sure what their next step is""

  Probably closing their KH and making them drive inconveniently further.
  
  
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  Acts 15:29 - "keep abstaining from blood"

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.

  this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.

  for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.

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  Beth Sarim

  WT studies a truly make someone gag, sick to the stomach.

  You hear comments like ''we don't want to be overbearing with rules and commands'', or ''jeopardize someone's health and safety''.

  Yet, they have an entire WT about adhering to a deadly blood policy including using liason committee elders to enforce this with possible resulting in a disfellowshipping if someone takes a transfusion.

  Just doesn't make sense.
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  Weasel Word Phrase--The Bible Does Not Say...but

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bible does not say—the weasel word phrase that bugs me the most.

  note that though the wts says this, it then proceeds to add :.

  after jesus’ birth, why did joseph and mary remain in bethlehem instead of returning home to nazareth?.

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  Beth Sarim

  "we can assume''

  ''we can can conclude''

  or how about this doozy, ''we don't know for sure'', that says alot.
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  WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

  “words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

  intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

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  Beth Sarim

  When you hear the Borg say "scientists'' say or ''researchers'' say,, I'd like to know what scientist they are quoting or what researcher they are quoting from.

  Because they can't.
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  JWs Still Attending on Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another topic based on a conversation with a friend living near warwick (i talked to him over the weekend).

  he said that cong's in and around bethel, including his, are slowly starting to see an uptick with people attending in person his cong is pretty much 75%+ in person.

  however there are many that still use zoom as a fall back.

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  Beth Sarim

  Many still on zoom from my observations.

  You know, a nice spring day outside, no apparent , obvious health issues .
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  A Little About Me & What Is a Resurrection?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a little about me first: i was a 4th generation jw who had major reservations about the wt growing up, but finally got on board at age 23 when i got baptized.

  spent 8 very active years in, then 8 years out as an agnostic.

  got saved in 2004 and been living the born-again christian bible-believing life ever since.

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  Beth Sarim

  ""Ive yet to find a religion that claims to be false.""

  Nailed it!!

  100% bang on. If I could hit that like but 1000 times,,I would.
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  WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

  “words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

  intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

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  Beth Sarim

  The Mark Martin youtube channel had a video on this a few weeks ago.

  It"s called "loaded - language" too.

  Things like "bible based" publications. And '"honest - hearted" ones.

  He related that these terms actually meant WT publications and the latter one is a gaslighting term to those who feel the need to have the WT influence their lives or otherwise vulnerable to WT teachings at the time.
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  WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

  “words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

  intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

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  Beth Sarim

  And people plan their lives around this stuff. On such ''qualifying'' words.
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  WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

  “words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

  intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

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  Beth Sarim

  ''Don't forget EVIDENTLY and APPARENTLY.''

  Nah. The Borg would never, ever, ever use those words, now would they. ROFL.
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  JW visit...after 12 years out

  by Nobleheart1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to post here under the name nobleheart but forgot the old password, so put up a new account (nobleheart1).

  was a jw (2002-2011), ended up writing a da letter.

  i am a christian (since leaving the org).

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  Beth Sarim

  It's just the same old JW rhetoric and circular reasoning,

  Resulting in doubts, depression and all these things.